What did God do before the creation event?

Many scientists are in agreement with theologians that there was a “beginning” for the creation of the universe. They disagree as to whether this event was natural or metaphysical, chance or purposeful.

If I take the side of theologians, then assuming God is an infinite and eternal being, what the heck was God doing when time equaled zero (t = 0)? What changed God’s eternal and infinite action so that it could create the finite, physical universe? God certainly was not inactive before the creation event!

I am a follower of the theological ideas of Emanuel Swedenborg. He maintained that the Creator’s spiritual energy (Love) and divine laws (Wisdom) have always emanated outwards in a way analogous to the thermodynamic heat and light of an astronomical sun. Since God’s activity is constant, what change allowed for this ongoing activity to suddenly produce the tangible cosmos?

I think of stuff like this. Why? Because I want to understand God on ever-deeper levels and to hopefully find the meaning and reason for my existence.

Swedenborg does provide a valuable hint. He claimed that God created the world because Love needs a subject and object outside of itself to love (if God only loved Himself, this would be counter to true Divine Love). The big clue provided by Swedenborg is that God’s Love can only flow into a similar process (or there would be disharmony and disjunction between causes and their effects).

Therefore, the actual creation event of the physical universe of time, space, physical matter and coherent complexity depended on creation to cooperate and reciprocate with God as a created co-creator (a term borrowed from Philip Hefner). So originally, God’s Infinite Love and Wisdom produced nothing with “fixedness,” or that would provide feedback.

Then God modified His activity in way that created things would also have to rely on other created things to maintain their existence. This is where the process of coming into existence suddenly became dependent not only on God’s originating influx but on relationship and co-existence between the created things themselves. This allowed the unfolding universe to be interconnected, interrelated and interdependent (holistic) with everything else. Therefore, physical nature, process and evolution became an external analog (image and likeness) of God’s Love.

The essence of love is to unite. Also, love cannot find its fullness or perfection unless objects outside of itself can receive its influence and take on a similar endeavor. This is why nature shows us an incessant endeavor towards self-organization and increased complexity (higher order structure).

Existence is relationship.

Before this, God’s Love and Wisdom simply flowed into various (and constantly changing) non-spatial forms by an inward way, independent of external inputs or supports. Humankind is also profoundly affected by this divine modification in God’s plan—we cannot live without having to eat. People also need to rely on other people. Even religion attempts to reach us through external ways by means of written sacred texts and commandments (spiritual nourishment).

Through humankind’s spiritual evolution, God’s Love can be consciously recognized and shared in tangible ways.

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EDWARD F. SYLVIA, M.T.S. Philosopher/Theologian Edward F. Sylvia attended the School of Visual Arts in New York and received his Master of Theological Studies at the Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, CA and a Certificate of Swedenborgian Studies from the Swedenborgian House of Studies. He is a member of the Center for Theology and the Natural Sciences (C.T.N.S.) and the Swedenborg Scientific Association (S.S.A.). Award-winning author of "Sermon From the Compost Pile: Seven Steps Toward Creating An Inner Garden" and "Proving God," which fulfills a continuing vision that God’s fingerprints of love can be found everywhere in the manifest universe. His most recent book, "Swedenborg & Gurdjieff: The Missing Links" is an edgy collection of anti-intuitive essays for personal transformation that challenges and inspires. He has been a student of the ideas of both Emanuel Swedenborg and George I. Gurdjieff for over thirty years. Read more about TheGodGuy, his books and his ideas at http://www.staircasepress.com
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8 Responses to What did God do before the creation event?

  1. Jim RIgney says:

    I think this is great. I agree that God had a perfect plan before he created, and all created beings were created through it. Love is the core of God’s Heart, and GOd had an impulse to love, which caused Him to create the universe as His object to love. The entire universe is created in subject object pairs which allow for further creation.

  2. thegodguy says:

    Dear Jim,

    Thank you for your positive words!

    Spiritually yours,
    TheGodGuy

  3. mitch says:

    I have often pondered this question and usually come to some strange conclusion that time doesnt exist in such a forward moving form as people think. Ive wondered if God is the accumulation of all truth and good and pure consciousness. When I try to wrap my head around that God sounds much less human and singular than we are told in the word. Its even hard to formulate sentences out of the whirlwind of possibilities in my head. But i guess thats just my tiny human point of view trying to condense infinite love and wisdom into something I can grasp. Anyway, if I could imagine myself as God ( ridiculous!? ) or the only conscious being, I would be prettttyyyyy lonely. I suppose were all here to Save each other from loneliness and share existence with a God who knows the way. Im sure this post was hard to pin down but those are just some wandering thoughts. Thanks for the thought provoking read.

    Mitch

  4. thegodguy says:

    Dear Mitch,

    You are most welcome. The purpose of this blog is to stretch the reader’s neurons. I am not expecting everyone to come to similar conclusions as mine!

    Spiritually yours,
    TheGodGuy

  5. david jones says:

    Dear GodGuy,
    Why create dinosaurs and then make them all extinct? Why create mosquitos which do nothing but harm-more or less? I watched a Dvd by a creationist which was called ‘Why did a good God make bad bugs’ he said that things like mosquitos and other nasty creatures were only made nasty after the Original Sin episode, what was their purpose before that time? Why has the human race only fairly recently made major advances in science and technology, why didn’t He just impart all this knowledge from the start, we would be exploring his starry creations by now. Why has he made Islam so radical, they seem to worship Him with a vicious fervour, and if they are not worshipping Him, why doesn’t he smite them for breaking commandment ! ( I think?) I have lots more questions.
    David

    • thegodguy says:

      Dear David,

      Most of your questions can be answered in my second book “Proving God.” Check out the chapter entitled “Theodicy.” It explains why God does things the way He does and why there is evil in the world. The award-winning book is available on Amazon.com

      Spiritually yours,
      TheGodGuy

  6. Greg says:

    Why does God only talk to people in their heads and never out loud so everyone can hear and not think the person is just crazy and making things up? (Which they are.) Apparently, according to Genesis, God used to be social and actually came down to earth and walked and talked with people. Why doesn’t he do that any more? Genesis also says God sent his sons down to earth and they mated with earth women and they had children. Why does the New Testament say Jesus is God’s only son? The answer to all these questions is the same – God is the creation of man and not the other way around. Believing there is an invisible all-powerful being that created everything is the most illogical thing I can think of. (Yeah, I know, I ended that sentence with of.) The title of your second book is “Proving God.” Until God actually comes to earth so everyone can see him and does something that no person could possibly do, you can’t prove there is a God.
    Greg

    • thegodguy says:

      Dear Greg,

      Many of your questions are addressed in my book “Proving God.” It seems that you only want physical proof rather than rational proof. But when Jesus told people that heaven is “within you” He was talking about a non-physical kingdom of the spirit that was ontologically real. The Bible actually has a higher non-physical level of meaning by which the Lord God indeed communicates with the human race. We no longer understand this rarefied language. The problem is you are treating the idea of God as a finite being and having a hair comb in His vest pocket. Plus, you don’t want to spend the small amount of money on my book to see whether my approach makes sense or not! The book will make you think of things that have never yet occurred to you! That is a promise!

      Spiritually yours,
      TheGodGuy

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