Did God Create An Imperfect World?

The evidence seems overwhelming. The world is anything but perfect. This has led some to believe that a God of perfect love could not have been the author of such a flawed plan. But if we contemplate this notion a bit, we will see that to do otherwise would rule out God’s having to create a world of time and space.

God created the earth with a finite size, taking up a finite space. Was this a mistake? The imperfection of this finite design is that everything that will ever live cannot possibly occupy this limited space at the same time. So life forms come and go. They die but they reproduce to keep things going.

The only way to change this apparent “wasteful” situation would be to allow everything to live forever, and on a planet that kept getting bigger and bigger. This would also mean that one life form could never eat another.

But this would throw all organic process out the window – since the main function of internal organs is to process food and make it available to every cell in the body. Cells would no longer have to process anything for the body, either. (We certainly would not need an immune system in a world of perfect health.)

So, it would be no sense keeping our internal organs unless they were allowed to remain inside our bodies in order to “pantomime” the functions of life. Is it not within God’s Infinite power to keep us alive even with hollow bodies?

Why stop there? Plants would no longer have to turn the energy of the sun into starches. Earthworms would not have to labor to keep the soil fertile, etc., etc.

So what would everything be alive for in a perfect world if what they were designed to do became irrelevant? Idealists might respond by saying that everything in a perfect world would be alive to share the world in peaceful coexistence and happiness – people, bugs and bacteria.

But could a worm find happiness in not being a human? Therefore, in a perfect world, there would be no hierarchy. Evolution (and species extinction) would not be necessary if God simply created only humans – right off the bat.

But that would not make things perfect unless all humans were created as loving angels.

Furthermore, we would all have to look equally beautiful or handsome, and be equally intelligent, in order for the world to be a place of true equality and justice.

Unfortunately, in such a perfect cookie-cutter world, how would we maintain our unique personalities without enjoying first-person phenomenal experience? How would we be interesting to others?

I believe a true God of love would give us the capacity to choose what we love, good or bad, because this is the drive belt of who we are.

Think about that. Human free will and human disposition is founded on love itself. God protects this freedom of the human spirit above everything else. Heaven is a choice. And there is nothing that could prevent us from making that choice but ourselves.

The physical world of time and space was created in such a way as to offer us a full spectrum of influences so that we could prepare ourselves for a non-material afterlife. In God’s eternal, spiritual realm, we will find ourselves in a non-physical environment whose topological features, flora and fauna, reflect the qualities of our heart and mind.

What could be more perfect than a world tailor-made for each of us, and our personal proclivities?

Perhaps, in my next post, I will provide more detail concerning the nature of the biosphere that makes up the unique ecology of the spiritual world. Then I would like to address the issue of evil in God’s universe.

Stay tuned.

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EDWARD F. SYLVIA, M.T.S. Philosopher/Theologian Edward F. Sylvia attended the School of Visual Arts in New York and received his Master of Theological Studies at the Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, CA and a Certificate of Swedenborgian Studies from the Swedenborgian House of Studies. He is a member of the Center for Theology and the Natural Sciences (C.T.N.S.) and the Swedenborg Scientific Association (S.S.A.). Award-winning author of "Sermon From the Compost Pile: Seven Steps Toward Creating An Inner Garden" and "Proving God," which fulfills a continuing vision that God’s fingerprints of love can be found everywhere in the manifest universe. His most recent book, "Swedenborg & Gurdjieff: The Missing Links" is an edgy collection of anti-intuitive essays for personal transformation that challenges and inspires. He has been a student of the ideas of both Emanuel Swedenborg and George I. Gurdjieff for over thirty years. Read more about TheGodGuy, his books and his ideas at http://www.staircasepress.com
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18 Responses to Did God Create An Imperfect World?

  1. Clark Bunch says:

    I think God created a perfect world, and sin entering into the world is what screwed it up, if I could be so cras. God placed man and woman in the garden, which provided all of their needs. He met with them each day face to face, and everything was perfect. In Gen. 3, God curses the serpent, the woman, the man, and the face of the earth itself. It may be noted since you discuss population that it seems Eve had children only after the fall. I believe Adam and Eve had bodies designed by God to last forever, but with the curse of sin eventually got old and died. Sin affected perfection, and the curse changed God’s perfect creation into the fallen world we live in today. We are promised, however, that God will make a new heaven and a new earth someday that will not pass away. I believe God created a perfect world once, and will do it again.

    I’m looking forward to your post on evil. I think God had a plan and a purpose for evil to exist, but I’ll wait like you asked.

  2. cornishevangelist says:

    Faith
    “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen.”
    {Hebrews 11 v 1}.

    For faith is believing in things that we cannot see. Now we must believe that what we have prayed for will soon manifest in our lives, for by faith we will truly receive. Yet some people say, “ but it’s not easy and you don’t know what I am going through,” well, that is true, but it still doesn’t change the fact that Jesus said, “ All things are possible to them that believe,” and we must live by faith. It is worth hoping and believing for things in our lives to change, it really does not matter what people say, or what we feel, for God said, “For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God”. {1 Corinthians 3 v 19}.

    Well, you may say Billy these things that you have written seem to be very foolish, and contrary to civilized people of today, but the Bible says, “That the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men”. {1 Corinthians 1 v 25}.

    Dear saints never underestimate the power of our Lord’s gospel. Many people would like to know what you and I know, and see the things that you and I see, surely we are so blessed because we have the Holy Scriptures to tell us who and what we are in Christ.

    Yes, we are more than conquerors through Him that loved us. May we always have the faith to believe for a better life, for ourselves and our loved ones, for Jesus said, “I have come that you might have life and life more abundantly”. My prayer is that you may indeed have an abundant life in Christ Jesus”.

    It’was a glad day when Jesus found me, When His strong arms were thrown around me, When my sins He buried in the deepest sea, And my soul He filled with joy and victory, It’was a glad day, oh, hallelujah! It’was a glad day He claimed His own! I will shout a glad hosanna in glory, When I see Him upon His throne.

    EVANGELIST BILLY BOLITHO
    http://www.evangelistbillybolitho.blogspot.com

  3. thegodguy says:

    Dear Clark,

    Do you really believe that taking a bite out of a piece of fruit caused the whole world to suddenly become flawed? That image is in conflict with the theological premise that God is Infinite Love and Wisdom.

    What wisdom is there in damning the entire world and humankind for an epicurean mishap? And why would God go to great lengths to protect Cain form harm when he was guilty of a much more grievous crime – murder? Inconsistency is itself imperfection.

    The stories of the Sacred Word have far deeper meanings then that which is revealed by the literal sense of its words. I have addressed the topic of Scripture as being a multi-dimensional document in previous posts, so I need not labor to repeat those things here.

    However, the Orthodox Christian idea that God will again make the world perfect by “military force” is again in conflict with an All-loving Creator. Such a scenario implies that God will make the world perfect by external means and brute force (from the outside in) as opposed to winning the battle for our hearts and minds (from the inside out).

    FOR KINGDOMS TO CHANGE, MEN AND WOMEN MUST CHANGE. The purpose of religion is to show us how to change. Religion is walking with God – a path not taken by feet.

    Therefore, the Second Coming is not to be understood as a physical event – but a shaking up of our interior values.

    The human race was made for eternal life in heaven – not for a physical world made perfect. The Garden of Eden represented an original quality of heart and mind – a state of wisdom and innocence. The fall, and removal of Adam and Eve from the garden, represents something much deeper and more relevant. It was the removal of humankind from wisdom and innocence. This is what God truly intends to restore.

    But if you prefer to wait for some grand physical event to occur, that is entirely up to you.

    Spiritually yours,
    TheGodGuy

  4. thegodguy says:

    Dear Billy,

    Say What? Did Jesus actually remove ALL YOUR SINS by faith alone? Or did you make efforts to identify your dark proclivities, repent, and humbly ask for the Lord’s help to resist those proclivities?

    You haven’t specified the nature of your “victory.”

    I agree with you that the civilized people of today are in need of Scripture. But what good is it to be blessed by ownership of the Holy Word if it is misinterpreted. For instance, one of the most erroneous ideas in modern Christian doctrine is that faith in Christ trumps the Law, In other words, having faith in Christ renders the Commandments useless for salvation.

    The Lord never said such a thing. He simply boiled down the Ten Commandments into two – loving God and loving the neighbor (which covers it all). Even the Apostle Paul stated that spiritual love was the way to fulfill the commandments and that love was greater than faith.

    Spiritually yours,
    TheGodGuy

  5. cornishevangelist says:

    Living A Victorious Life

    How do we live a victorious life in Christ Jesus? Now that we are saved we no longer want to do the things that we did in the past, but more than likely we find ourselves committing the same sins that Jesus delivered us from again, and we feel so defeated, our joy in the Lord disappears and our Christian walk becomes a continual struggle. Well, the Word of God has the answer, we must remember that Jesus not only took all our sins upon the cross, and all our sicknesses, but also made provision for us to live the rest of our lives on earth victoriously.

    Let me explain, if you find that you are doing things that you do not want to do because the flesh is weak, then cry out to Jesus, and make this your prayer, “Jesus, take this evil away from me, I cannot stop, my flesh is weak, but you are strong, my spirit is willing, but my flesh is weak, for no longer I live, but you live in me, my life is crucified with you, and I cannot live without your grace in me. So you Lord Jesus break this sin that tries to make me obey it, and set me free, for if the Son shall make me free I shall be free indeed,” Amen.

    We are not the first Christians to fail, but remember it is Christ’s faith, power and strength, yes, His grace that will get us through, call out to Him, because you cannot defeat sin or sickness in our own strength, the Bible says that the flesh profiteth nothing, it is the Spirit that giveth life, and the Spirit is Jesus, and it is Jesus that wants to reign in you, and give you the power to live victoriously.

    The scriptures that we quote from the Bible are written for one reason and one reason only, and that is to point us to Christ, from Genesis to Revelation it cries Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. He was the answer for your salvation, and healing and He is the answer for you to live a good victorious Christian life. Jesus said, “without me ye can do nothing.” {St John 15 v 5}.

    The Bible says in Philippians 1 v 6, “Being confident of this very thing, that He which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ,” which means that the Holy Ghost has called you in the beginning to accept Christ, and it is He that will bring us through to the time of Jesus return. For He is the Spirit of promise, and He is our guarantee that He will never ever leave us or forsake us.

  6. thegodguy says:

    Dear Christian Friend,

    We are in perfect agreement if you understand that living victoriously requires approaching the Lord for the the strength to resist a particular and identifiable sin. In this way we show the Lord what we want changed and the Lord provides the strength. This is how we let the Lord reign in us. Faith in the Lord by itself, does NOT wipe our slate clean.

    Why not?

    There was no need for the Lord to take our sins upon the cross because the Lord God punishes no one (see my post entitled “The Divine Rope-A-Dope”). We are never punished for what we have DONE, however, if we CONTINUE to commit sin we take the path of hell on our own accord. Those in heaven and hell are separated according to the quality of their loves, motives, and intentions. What is more just than that?

    The Lord never forsakes those in Hell either. They are still His children. But it is they who have turned their backs on the Lord. All life is sustained by the Lord, in this world and the next, in heaven and in hell.

    A question for YOU. What is your take on the Trinitarian Doctrine? Do you believe that the Holy Trinity consists of three “Persons” or three divine operations of one Person? See my blog entitled “Three Gods or One God?” It contains a lengthy back and forth debate.

    Spiritually yours,
    TheGodGuy

  7. “I am alpha and omega”
    “I am the alphabet”

  8. thegodguy says:

    Could you be more specific? My readers like details!

    Spiritually yours,
    TheGodGuy

  9. cornishevangelist says:

    You said. (We are in perfect agreement if you understand that living victoriously requires approaching the Lord for the the strength to resist a particular and identifiable sin. )

    “If ye love me, keep my commandments.”
    {St John 14 v15}.

    All who love Jesus and are truly saved will try to keep His commandments, for we show Him our love by keeping them. Jesus said, “He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me; and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him and will manifest myself to him.” St John 14 v 21.

    So you see, to claim that we are Christians, yes, followers of Christ, we must show that we are Christ like in our lives, there must be a distinction between the church and the world. If we live like the world then we will be condemned with the world, but if we try to live like Jesus wants us to live, by keeping His commandments, then His blood will cleanse us from all sin, and His promise is that He will prepare a place for us in heaven.

    Jesus said, “In my Fathers house are many mansions; if it were not so I would have told you, I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.” St John 14 v 2:3. You see Jesus has shown us the way.

    If we follow Jesus and keep His commandments then we keep in His love, just as Jesus kept in His Fathers love by keeping His Fathers commandments. Let us always be found abiding in His love, for He has chosen us for His kingdom. When the bridegroom cometh will your robes be white? Pure and white in the blood of the Lamb? Will your soul be ready for the mansions bright, And be washed in the blood of the Lamb?

    “And this is His commandment, That we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
    And He that keepeth His commandments dwelleth in Him, and He in Him And hereby we know that He abideth in us, by the Spirit which He hath given us”, {1 John 3 v 23:24}.

    It is a thing most wonderful, Almost too wonderful to be, That God’s own Son should come from heaven, And die to save a child like me. Oh, it was love, it’ was wonderous love;
    The love of God to me; it’ brought my Saviour from above, To die on Calvary.

  10. thegodguy says:

    Dear cornishevangelist,

    We are in agreement that we must keep the Lord’s commandments. Some Christian denominations, however, have wrongfully assumed that Jesus dying on the cross wiped our sins away, and therefore having faith in the Lord trumps any responsibility to the Law.

    Scripture makes it quite clear that we have to COOPERATE with the Lord in our salvation through INTROSPECTION and asking Him to help us resist PARTICULAR evils. This is evidenced by the Lord’s words that we are to “clean the inside of the cup.” Which means that we each are to take part in uncovering the “dirt” and getting it cleaned-up (with the Lord’s help). No such “cleansing” took place on the Cross. The Lord’s death and resurrection was a means to keep the possibility of salvation open to the human race. Humankind has to reciprocate.

    Thank you for your comments. You have given me an idea for my next post which will address “dishwashing.”

    Spiritually yours,
    TheGodGuy

  11. the-eurasianearthlink.net says:

    20th century Catholics Alexandrina Da Costa and Teresa Neumann did not eat anything nor drink anything for many years till death BUT THE HOLY EUCHARIST ONLY.

  12. thegodguy says:

    Dear eurasian,

    Thanks for the info. But I am not sure what point you are making. Certainly if the Holy Eucharist sustains life then we would not need a liver to cleanse us of toxins because the Eucharist would represent the ultimate purity.

    However, I hope you are not implying that humans can live in an earthly body forever. God is making mansions for us in another realm.

    Spiritually yours,
    TheGodGuy

  13. Dr. TheGodGuy

    Jacinta Marto (fatima seer) DIED SOME 90 YEARS AGO. In the 3 exhumations done on her body, Jacinta Marto’s dead body was longer and longer at each exhumation. Yet she has never eaten these 90 years because her body was dead!!! I think one of these days, her body will be longer than the body of her older brother Francisco.

    Jacinta Marto was the child who was worried about the Blessed Virgin Mary’s hunger and was telling Lucia and Francisco that maybe they should give Mary some food because she has been on a long journey.

    With respect to the Holy Eucharist, Miracles of the Holy Eucharist only occur in the Catholic Church. The Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano WHICH IS CONSIDERED THE GREATEST MIRACLE OF THE HOLY EUCHARIST occured to a monk when the Eastern Church was in Union with the Catholic Church. BUT WHEN THEY SEPARATED FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, GOD NO LONGER PERFORMED MIRACLES OF THE HOLY EUCHARIST IN THEIR CHURCH.

    1,200 YEARS LATER AND THE VISIBLE BREAD TURNED FLESH AND THE VISIBLE WINE TURNED BLOOD ARE STILL HERE. MEDICAL EXAMINATIONS HAVE BEEN DONE ON THEM AND ALL CAN SEE THE RESULTS IN THE INTERNET. In table of contents are several links:

    http://www.negrisud.it/en/abruzzo/miracolo_eucaristico/tableofcontents.html

    Microscopic medical pictures can be seen at:
    http://www.negrisud.it/en/abruzzo/miracolo_eucaristico/photorecognition.html

    REMEMBER, THIS IS THE SAME GOD WHO IN THE PERSON OF JESUS CHRIST STRETCHED OUT HIS HAND AND INSTANTLY CALMED THE STORMY SEA. “WHAT MANNER OF A MAN IS THIS THAT EVEN THE SEA OBEYS HIM?”, SAID ONE APOSTLE.

  14. Dr. TheGodGuy

    By the way, Jesus’ live Body is in heaven. So too the live body of the Blessed Virgin Mary is in heaven. So too the live body of the Prophet Elija. And so to the live body of the son (Enoch?) of Adam, the son who lived here on earth for 365 years then God simply took him for a walk and was never seen again. Also, maybe the holy people of the Old Testament who rose from their tombs after Jesus died on the cross, and the thick curtain on the Temple which separated the Holy of holies was torn STARTING FROM THE TOP GOING TO THE BOTTOM.

  15. thegodguy says:

    Dear eurasian,

    Your additional details sound impressive.

    Miracles do happen. However, when the Lord God performs a miracle it does not represent the suspension of law. Miracles are possible because of the causal link between spiritual dynamics and physical dynamics. All physical forces and objects are recipient forms of God’s divine influence. In other words, the INFINITE GOD dwells in all finite things according to reception. Physical matter can be made increasingly reactive and responsive to God’s will. A miracle represents God’s higher SPIRITUAL laws manifesting in spacetime and removing the constraints of physical law.

    God is Divine Order. God’s love (essence) always works through lawful order (truth).

    Spiritually yours,
    TheGodGuy

  16. thegodguy says:

    Dear eurasian,

    You sent another message just as I was responding to the previous one.

    Yes, the Lord Jesus Christ ascended into heaven – BODY AND ALL! But no finite human can reach this level of PERFECTION. You are obviously well read concerning the Lord’s Holy Word. But unknown to most people (even theologians) is that Holy Scripture contains three discrete levels of meaning. On the higher levels of exegesis Mary, Elija and Enoch represent a teaching that transcends materialistic ideas about religion.

    Heaven is not a place you go to, it is something you become.

    Spiritually yours,
    TheGodGuy

  17. Juliana says:

    Did God create an imperfect world?

    I am a Christian, a new believer and I suppose it is natural to ask logical questions because God gave us brains and we are taught to think, rationalise and infer logically in universities.

    Why do I have questions? Is it challenging God to ask questions? Are Christians required to have blind faith based on faith and undaunted faith and strong faith? I have questions because I can see miseries, injustices, pain, heartaches etc etc and we just have to have faith and wait for God to intervene.

    Question 1: God created humans to be elementary. Just a speck of life form. Yet He demands SO much according to the Bible. He wants us to be good people who live s according to his Commandments and Rules. Why did He create us to sinful in the first place? Why didn’t he create us to be good? The Bible said that we are born out of God’s anger and wrath because of adam and eve? Why would a loving God condemn an entire human race just because of two people’s sins?

    Question 2 : Why did He create so much misery and heartache? If He loves us, He wouldn’t do this. He wouldn’t give life and take it away as and when He wishes.

    Question 3: Why does God allow us to sin? Why did He make it so difficult for humans to please Him? Why does He put humans to test each time they try very very hard to be near HIM ?

  18. thegodguy says:

    Dear Juliana,

    Thank you for your challenging questions. Unfortunately these questions cannot be answered with mere “sound bites” or within the scope of a mere blog post.

    This topic is referred to in theological circles as THEODICY – the issue of evil in the world (which also includes the “unfairness” of species extinction).

    My new book “Proving God” devotes a whole chapter to this difficult theme (as well as the dynamics behind salvation and spiritual evolution). I hope you will not be offended if I direct you to my website and further information about the book.

    http://www.provinggod.com

    Spiritually yours,
    TheGodGuy

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